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Donald E. Hester

Why do we suffer because of Adam's sin?

by Donald E. Hester
Donald E. Hester
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on Thursday, 28 March 2013
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Adam's Sin

Why do we suffer because of Adam's sin?

We suffer for Adam’s sin because we inherited this depraved state from him. Adam and Eve had free will and God gave them an opportunity to exercise that free will with one rule about not eating fruit form a single tree in the garden. They choose to exercise that free will to disobey that only command. They entered into what we call the fallen state where they took on a rebellious sin nature. In that state they conceived the rest of humanity and in a sense, we are Adam. Animals and human reproduce of their own kind. When they reproduced the rest of us it’s as if we are saying that we have that same nature and that the entire human race sinned along with them. Romans 5:12 says all men have sinned. Notice it is past-tense. It’s as if we all sinned at once. Notice, also, that Ephesians 2:1-2 calls us the sons of disobedience.

Biologically, we are a family and, in a way, we are one. We all have Adam and Eve’s DNA floating around in us. In a very real way, I was there with Adam when he sinned. I had just not spawned yet. Millard Erickson puts it this way,

“The entirety of our human nature, physical and spiritual, material and immaterial, has been received from our parents and more distant ancestors by way of descent from the first pair of humans.” Augustine called this our seminal nature. John Calvin said, “By the corruption into which he [Adam] himself fell, he infected his whole seed… Our nature is not only utterly devoid of goodness, but so prolific in all kinds of evil, that it can never be idle.” [1]

I think we struggle with this because we look at this from an individualistic point of view. We need to look at it as if we were a tribe or, in more modern terms, we need to look at our corporate choice and condition. A number of biblical passages give us a look at the concept of a corporate identity. [2] We may object to this corporate view of sin and guilt because we feel we never had the chance to not sin. However, that does not mean that we should not be guilty because, in a sense, we ratify our guilt by our own sin. It is true that, by one man, we have all sinned but the good news is that, by one man, Jesus Christ, all men can be saved. “For as through the one man's disobedience the many were made sinners, even so through the obedience of the One the many will be made righteous.” [3]

In a way, this corporate view cuts two ways. In one way, we are guilty even before we are born. The upside to this is we could never be good enough on our own and by the life, death and resurrection of the second Adam (Jesus Christ) our debt is paid for. Yes it works both ways but the benefit is all ours.

What about pain and suffering caused by natural disasters?

Suffering from natural disasters is a result of Adams sin. God cursed the ground for Adam and Eve’s sin. [4] Suffering caused by all natural disasters can be accounted for as a result of Adam’s sin.

Hugh Ross also makes the argument that natural disasters are needed in order to make our planet livable. Without plate tectonics and volcanic activity, our planet would not be able to sustain life. We cannot live on this planet without natural disasters. In a very real way, the catastrophe is a small price to pay for a greater good.

Notes:


1. Genesis 3:17

2. It is worthy to note the in the Reformed tradition the idea is that we start with a perfect soul and once it is connected with our body it is then corrupted.

3. Hebrews 7:9-10; Romans 5:12; Romans 5:19; Ephesians 2:1-3; 1 John 3:8-10

4. Romans 5:19

Tags: Theology, Sin Nature, Original Sin, Pain & Suffering
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Donald E. Hester

Is God Mean?

by Donald E. Hester
Donald E. Hester
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on Friday, 27 February 2009
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Since the early days of Christianity, people have made a distinction between how God acts in the Old Testament verses how He acts in the New Testament. Marcion wrote his Antitheses (= contradictory statements) contrasted the Old Testament God of wrath with Jesus’ God of love and mercy. He says that the God of the New Testament and the God of the Old Testament are antithetical, that is They are in direct and unequivocal opposition.

Some people today see it as an irreconcilable difference and thus use it to question the existence of God.

How we reconcile this is important. I have a few responses as this may require a deep discussion because it does warrant more than superficial answers. I have a number of possible answers, and I would love to read others opinions.
 
Future Context Answer
The story of God commanding Israel to destroy all of the Canaanites is often cited as an example of a wrathful God, however, we have to remember the context. First, God knows the beginning from the end and knew they would not carry out his command to completely destroy them. Second, they didn’t completely destroy them. Third, because they did not completely destroy them, the Canaanites influence in their lives lead Israel to worship other gods and all sorts of other trouble. Which eventually lead to their deportment from the land.
The fact that God deported Israel is often cited as an example of God’s wrath and not of His love. However, the context again clarifies the situation. We need to remember that God made an agreement with Israel that had clear stipulations. Israel agreed to the covenant with God. God was longsuffering to implement punishment that was agreed to in the covenant. He had every right by the terms of the agreement to leave them forever. However, He never left them fully and He restored them after a period of time. He has restored them yet again even after they rejected the Messiah. I see loving kindness in the Old Testament as well.
 
Cultural and Political Context
The restrictive and seemingly extreme laws and punishments given to Israel are often cited as an example of a wrathful God. First, we need to remember this was a theocracy and not a democracy or monarchy. Second, the culture in the area allowed for slavery and death for adultery and death for a number of other offenses. The world then was patriarchal and the laws reflect that period of time. God was establishing a government in that society. His laws slaves do not mean that He would not prefer the absence of slavery.   In addition, the laws were extreme in other ways as well. God’s laws favored justice not the elite. They were far more egalitarian than surrounding peoples of that time.
 
Paul even understood that culture limits our ability to be fully egalitarian. Paul says that we are all one in Christ that slaves should obey their masters, and the masters should be good to their slaves. In one statement, he is very egalitarian and in the next, he deals with the reality of the culture. He is not saying that he condones slavery, he just accepts the culture as it is, with hopes that one day God will correct it all.
The death penalty for breaking many of the laws is also seen as the wrath of God and not His justice or as a reflection of the society.   If you live in a village in the Holy Land 4000 years ago what do you do with criminals? Most of these places did not have the means of enforcement, such as a police force, nor did they have correctional facilities. How could they afford to house criminals and how could they afford to allow them to remain in the society?
 
Illustration Answer
I have heard some people make the claim that this is illustrative of the Christian life. That if we leave a remnant of sin in our lives and fail to expel it. It will haunt us from them on. Of course, we have to be careful with such speculations however, it seems probable that God could use it as an illustration for our lives. This is similar symbolism yeast has with sin in the Old Testament.
 
God’s Justice Answer
From a different point of view, I think it could be argued that the Creator had a morally sufficient reason to request their destruction. One thing that I always found interesting was that when Abraham came to Canaan he found people who worshiped the true God, specifically Melchizedek.   Then Israel was in Egypt and when they returned the land was devoid of anyone who worshiped God. I wonder what happened to Melchizedek and followers of the true God. Pure speculation on my part but, I think the Canaanites had something to do with it.
 
I know many people have problems with some Old Testament commands that seem to be counter to a loving God. However, we must remember that He is also a just God. Justice requires payment for wrong doing. Just requires victims to be indemnified. The Canaanites where know for sacrificing children to idols and demons. Perhaps their destruction was justice for the innocent victims of these cruel people.
 
Perspective Answer
Only God knows people’s hearts and sometimes the good and innocent are taken away in death for His purpose. There is a reference in 1 Kings 14 where God took the life of a, Abijah, son of Jeroboam because he was the only good one in the family. This is an interesting twist.
“All Israel shall mourn for him and bury him, for he alone of Jeroboam’s family will come to the grave, because in him something good was found toward the Lord God of Israel in the house of Jeroboam." 1 Kings 14:13 NASB
Even with the case of Job’s children being taken, it was for God purpose. It does not matter if they were good, bad or indifferent. It was for God’s purpose they died, not even for Job’s sake. When Job asked God why, God’s answer was, who the heck are you, are you the creator? (Paraphrased a bit). Yet, the unseen purpose was for us. We are the recipients of the story and for many who have lost loved ones find comfort in the book of Job. God’s glory is show in the midst of our trails. God can see things that Job could not and Job had to trust him.
 
Nephilim Answer
Another position put forward as to the reason God wants all of the Canaanites killed is because of a genetic problem. Now this is complete speculation are the part of those who propose it, however, it is a fascinating possibility. The position is that the devil is trying to pollute the gene pool so that the savior could not be born of a man. The idea is that when the fallen angels came down and took woman and had offspring from them a hybrid was produced called the Nephilim (Gen 6). It got so bad that God had to destroy the whole world and the only pure human being Noah and family. This is what is meant by Noah being perfect in generations or lineage. (דֹּור (dôr): lineage, generation, family line). His line had not been corrupted by the fallen angels inbreeding. 
 
The report Israel’s spies gave when they first went into the land is that they saw Nephilim there.
“There also we saw the Nephilim (the sons of Anak are part of the Nephilim); and  we became like grasshoppers in our own sight, and so we were in their sight.” – NASB Num. 13:33
Goliath was Anakim a descendant of Anak.
 
Satan knows that the savor is to come from a linage of people that would live in that land, does it not make sense to sabotage the gene pool before Israel gets there?   Satan thinks he could thwart God plan of redemption. Could God’s command to destroy the inhabitants be to cleanse the land of any hybrids be in response to Satan’s plan? Definitely, this is one of the more intriguing possibilities.
 
Personal Answer
I don’t always know why God allows bad things to happen or even how His glory will be shown by it. Recently my father-in-law passed away and I don’t know his eternal disposition. All I know is that God is loving and just and that his disposition is the right one. I can’t see it here and know, but I trust that I will some day.
 
Combined Answer
Anyone of these answers could stand own, however maybe there is multiple answers. In ancient times and even today people believe that there are multiple levels of meaning in the Bible for everything. Maybe this is true here.   After all, an all-powerful God could orchestrate it as such. It could be like apples of gold in settings of silver.
 
I will admit that there is a fair about of speculation here. However, these are rational explanations, none of which diminished my theology or that of true Christianity. I can be a pacifist and still except these answers. 
I am not saying these are the right answers. Just that they are possibilities.
Tags: Theology, Apologetics, Context, Interpretation
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